Jenna Del Pozo has trained here since she was a girl. She is graduating from ASU this year with a film degree, a new job doing social media for a family of Phoenix restaurants, a food blog called Lovely Limone, and a fear about the future she says is bigger than the average graduate’s. We talk about the timeline she needs to let go of, the pitch she prepared and never had to give, and the audition she has been avoiding.
How do you counteract fear and doubt about your future?
Let go of the timeline. Nobody who follows a dream is on schedule, and at some point you have to step off a ledge, so give your brain something logical to hold. When I left pre-med I did the math: becoming a doctor was twelve years and about $250,000 of debt, so I gave myself twelve years to grind as an actor, and I promised to work the hours a doctor works for the thing I loved. That’s the why. Then build a vision that is yours. Jenna loves acting and she loves food, and the two can be one thing: a vlog on the blog, sketches, eventually a show she writes and stars in. You don’t want to be on a show. You want the skills to be on shows whenever you want. Serve the people you work for without keeping score, and it comes back. And when the fear has a name, walk toward it. She hasn’t auditioned or gone after an agent because it feels like a huge responsibility, so that’s the assignment: a hundred auditions, on video, from home, for no other reason than to get past being afraid. Then decide whether you even want it. Either answer is fine, and you will have earned it.
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What is in the episode
- 1:59 · Lovely Limone. Jenna Del Pozo: a new job, a rebranded food blog, and a film degree from ASU this year.
- 3:11 · Worried about being behind. Graduating with fear and doubt about the future, and a timeline she has worked hard to stop believing in.
- 5:53 · Always acting. The passion that never left, a detour through journalism, and a second love in baking and cooking.
- 8:42 · The Anderson Cooper moment. If you want to do this work you have to want to wake up and do it every day. She heard it and knew it wasn’t her.
- 9:23 · Changing majors on the last day. Follow the gut instead of the safer thing, and the writing skills that came along anyway.
- 10:33 · Safer compared to what? The road less traveled, and whether it is any less safe than the one everyone else is on.
- 12:19 · Let go of the timeline. I have watched Jenna grow up here. She is more confident and connected than she has ever been, and it’s time.
- 13:03 · Twelve years and $250,000. What becoming a doctor would have cost me, and the deal I made: twelve years to grind as an actor, with the hours a doctor puts in.
- 16:04 · Combine what you love. Acting and personal development became my profession. Acting and food could become hers: a vlog, sketches, her own show.
- 20:26 · You don’t want to be on a show. You want the skills to be on shows any time you want. Write your own ticket instead of waiting for permission.
- 22:44 · Make your own way. The actors with their heads on straight start production companies by the third movie, so they’re not stuck doing what somebody else is passionate about.
- 24:23 · Become a servant of all. How can I serve these people to the highest level? Be the servant the king trusts most and you are the most valuable person in the kingdom.
- 25:54 · The pitch she never had to give. A year of hostessing, a list written on scraps of paper, and a boss who said start Monday before she finished.
- 27:38 · Prepare the pitch, then don’t give it. Once you have the job, close your mouth and walk out the door.
- 29:00 · Never say I again. We share a heritage, a background and a love of food, and my skills can further your mission. Take yourself out of the equation.
- 32:55 · Create the job that doesn’t exist. If the doors close for a while, offer to do the work for free and give while they’re in transition. That’s servanthood.
- 39:58 · The fear of getting back out there. Auditions and an agent feel like a huge responsibility, and the fear has no clear name.
- 43:16 · You must audition because you’re afraid of it. Same as walking into the boss’s office. Have your pitch, and don’t let the answer matter, because the next one is waiting.
- 44:23 · Start today. Get on a national casting site, audition on video from home, and apply to an agent. The book has the steps.
- 45:44 · Audition for the sake of it. A hundred auditions to get past the fear. Then decide whether you even want it, and either answer is fine.
- 47:43 · Scared and excited at the same time. The last time I felt this was leaving medicine. It’s a good place to live.
- 49:10 · Track them. Why you sometimes get the job after a bad audition: you’re rising as a person and an actor, and you were right for it.
- 51:48 · Earn your pillow. The work is never over, so that’s never the goal. Did I give everything today, or did I get distracted by something that wasn’t life-giving?
- 52:18 · A mastery lifestyle. There is no ending, and that’s the exciting part. Do the hard thing that moves you forward, and be better than you were yesterday.
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Welcome to Mornings with Matt, a completely virtual talk show hosted by acting and personal development coach Matthew Dearing. You can text in questions or chat with Matt as he will give advice about life, acting, or whatever else you can dream up. Presented by the Dearing Acting Studio. Okay, good morning everybody and welcome to Mornings with Matt. On this show, we inspire others to act with passion and realize their true potential as human beings.
It's a big part of our mission at Dearing Acting Studio. And so the way that we do that, our unique approach is we are connecting the art of acting with personal development. So we've been acting coaches for over a decade now, and we are connecting the art of acting with personal development. That is our focus here. So today we've got a guest on, Jenna Del Pozo. Brian, you want to bring in Jenna?
Hello. Good morning, Jenna. Hey. How are you doing today? Fun. Yeah. What's that? But I'm trying to defeat the sun. Oh, okay. You're winning. You look great. Thanks. How are you doing this morning? I'm good. How are you? Happy to be alive. Thank you for asking. So talk to me. How can we help today? Okay. So my life has been mostly positive right now, which is good amidst the craziness.
I'm like, I'm still really stoked about my job. It's still pretty new and exciting for me. I just rebranded my blog, which I'm also really excited about. It's been fun to work on. What is your blog? Let's, let's mention that. Okay. It's called Lovely Limone. It's a lifestyle blog, but it has a strong focus on food recipes. Okay. Can you spell that for our audience? Yeah. So check it out.
Lovelylimone.com. I really like it. I put a lot of work into it. If you like food, please check it out. See, that's a great, it's a great spot to be in. Cause I think a lot of people do like food. So good job. Yeah, I know it's, I put other stuff on there too. Like, um, just like, really, sorry, my dog is with me, um, experiences that I've had and like any trends that I like that are worth noting.
But I, to be honest, I post food on there the most, so it's fun. Um, and I'm also graduating this year. I'm a film and media studies student at ASU. Um, so that's really exciting, but also I feel like that comes with a lot of fear and doubt about the future, which I feel like is relatively normal for when you're graduating. Um, but I do feel like mine is just a little more exacerbated than the average person, just because of some of the things that I've been through.
Like sometimes I feel worried about being behind quote unquote, quote unquote, because I don't really like to say that anymore. Um, like I've worked really hard to like not feel that way and to like not worry about timelines, but I can't lie. Like it, it is a big thought in my mind still. Um, so, um, yeah. Okay. So, so today you wanted to talk about, about the fear and how to overcome that.
Is that, was that the goal? Um, yeah, like I have a few, um, related questions that kind of come about from that. Okay. Um, but that's just kind of where I'm at right now. Um, so I would say, so let's start with, with a little bit, uh, here personally, connect into that thing you're talking about this, this painful thing you're trying to release where you say you're, you're worried about timelines.
What, what are we talking about there? Um, and because of that, sometimes I feel like, I don't know. I just, I think it's because I feel so strongly about what I want to do in life that sometimes I get worried that, um, like I'm going to miss the timeline for it or something like that. When I know the truth is, it's like, it could happen at any time in my life.
But of course you want to get started on the things you're most passionate about as soon as you can. Yeah. I was, so yes, I know. So the acting has always been like my biggest passion since I was a kid. Like I've always known that that was something that I wanted to do. I just, I don't know if it was worry or what, but I started to get comfortable in, I was a journalism student first.
So I started to get a little bit comfortable in that. And I realized one of my biggest passions was baking and cooking, hence the food blog. Um, and that I would say like, that's my, I don't want to say second, but it's a huge, huge interest of mine. And I know that I want to do both acting and something professionally with the food. At some point in my life, I just don't know which one's going to come first.
I don't, sometimes I don't know which one to focus my attention on more. in, but I've always been clear about the acting. So, um, so if we, if we take this idea, um, so what about journalism? Are you still hanging on to that? Not exactly. I realized pretty quick, um, that I cared more about the history of journalism than actually doing the work. As soon as they were like, Hey, you have to write for the newspaper for ASU.
I was like, I'm out, I can't do this. Like I'm not interested at all. Um, why do you think that was, what, why do you think that was, I don't know. I just like, I just really had this strong feeling in my gut. Like I remember the day super clearly that we finished with all the like general journalism education and we moved on to them being like, okay, basically for the rest of your college career, you're going to be writing for the Cronkite paper and doing like broadcast stories and all that stuff.
And I was like, Whoa, I don't want to do this at all. Because my idea going into that major was that I was going to do journalism for entertainment, but then I found out that they don't offer classes for that. My advisor was like, it's fine. It's fine. And like, you're going to learn the general knowledge for it. And you can put that out into the, whatever you want to do after you graduate.
But I remember Anderson Cooper came to give us a talk and he said, um, a lot of people come into this thinking, Oh, I'll just get by. I'll just get by in the major and then I'll go out and do the work. And he's like, that's not going to fly by. He's like, if you want to do this work, you have to be so passionate about it.
You have to want to wake up and do it every single day. And I was like, Oh my God, that's not me. I can't do this. And so that was the first time that I was thinking this might not be the right major for me. And then it just like really hit home, like a couple months after that, when my professor was talking about the work we'd have to be doing.
And I was like, Oh my God, I'm just not into this at all. I can't do it. And so, um, I had to change majors that day, which was also pretty stressful because it was the last day for ad drop. Um, but I was like, well, like, what am I not studying that I've always wanted to study? And I saw the film and I saw that they offer entertainment media, not offer a lot of people can get entertainment media jobs with that major.
Um, so that's ultimately why I chose it. But then I realized I'm interested in literally everything about film. So it's been really fun actually. So you're doing now a film major. Awesome. So, so what did you learn in what, in your time doing journalism? Um, I feel like it was writing has always been one of my strong suits and I feel like that kind of helped centralize that for me a little bit, um, in terms of like career wise.
But, um, like, I guess the moral lesson that I learned from that is that I should just follow my passions and follow my gut instead of just choosing something that was maybe a little safer. Yeah. And, um, and safer compared to what, right? I mean, that, that's the other interesting question is, is somebody might say, um, they might tell someone getting into journalism, Hey, that's not a safe route.
Um, so it just really depends on your perspective on it. Yeah, you probably know that it's very true. It's not like it's a, most journalists actually don't really get paid that much. And a lot of the times they quite literally put their life on the line to get a story. So I don't really know where my thought process was going with that. Yeah. Um, well, well, we all do this to ourselves though.
We, we think about the safe path. Um, and, and it's so hard to take the road less traveled, but really, is it, is it any less safe than any other path? Yeah. And, and in the end, at the end it isn't. So you, you probably learned some writing skills as well, which has now served you quite a bit. Yes. Okay, good. So, so that's sort of the, the, the wrap up story here.
And I got to tell you, uh, I'll tell our audience here that, uh, I've known you a long time, you know, you've been a, you've been a student at the studio and I've watched you grow up, um, in my eyes from a little girl now to this young woman who's about to take on the world and I've seen you go through different phases of finding yourself and, um, and you are now exponentially more confident and well-spoken and connected than you've ever been.
And I know that's, that's something that you've been building and working toward. And so, um, so first of all, congratulations on that. Thank you. Yeah. You're well on your way. And then, um, secondly, I let, let's just, um, it's time for you to let go of the timeline. Yeah. Okay. So here's what I did and maybe this will help you. Cause, um, I think a lot of people who end up following their dreams and, and going down some sort of path that's, that's not normal necessarily by, by other people's standards, you, you have to step off of a ledge at some point in time.
So for me to do it, I needed to logically attach my brain to something. So first of all, why was this other time not a waste? And second of all, you know, like what would one mean versus the other? So I was going down a, uh, medicine track. I was supposed to become a doctor and I spent three and a half years at ASU doing pre-med. And then I switched over to photography because they didn't have a film degree.
So the closest they had was photography. And then I took all the film electives. So that, that's how I got my sort of connectedness over there. Um, but what I told myself was this, I said, if I was going to take, and for me, the safe route was becoming a doctor. That was the easy road. Um, which is funny to think about that being an easy road because it isn't actually, you know, if you, if you, but, but in my mind it was, cause that's what I knew.
That's the, that's the life I grew up in. My dad was a doctor. So to me, like, oh, that seems easy to other people. It doesn't, but to me it did. So I look at that and I'm going, okay, what does that look like really? It's 12 years of school, you know, all, all inclusive school, your, your internship as a doctor, your residency, you're, you know, trying to, if you want to, uh, form your own practice or get a job.
And then what do you get at the end of 12 years? You get an education and you get a, probably a $250,000 debt. That's what you get. So I told myself, Hey, you got dude, you got 12 years to grind as an actor, to, to find your way. And if 12 years from now, you're not 250,000 in debt and you've created a value for yourself that's equal or better to a doctor, you're ahead.
But then I, then I took the same idea, the same concept. And I said, okay, but if we were going to become a doctor, if we were going to have that value, what would they have forced me to do? And I thought about all the long hours. I thought about all the sleepless nights, um, you know, the spending the night at the, at the hospital, like all the things that you'd have to do to become a doctor.
And I said, all right, you now have to be willing to do that for the thing you love. And that's the big why question. And I'm so glad that Anderson Cooper came and connected to you guys and reached you because it's so important that you sit there and he, he wasn't trying to uninspire you, but he did in a great way. I mean, that's, that's the, that's an unbelievable gift that that man gave you because you were able to walk out, change majors.
And now you, you're waking up with purpose. So I would, I would say one of the things that would be really interesting for us to figure out, and I firmly believe that this is a, an important thing to, for people to try to grasp. So I have a, I have an extreme passion for helping others, for, for connecting and getting people like, um, I, I guess personal development.
Like I just love it. I love helping people navigate their lives. Um, and I love acting. So what I've done is I've found a way to combine the things that I love into a profession. So I can take the art of acting and I can, and I can, I can say, Hey, here are all the parallels between that and life. And then I teach from there. So you can be an entertainer, you can be an actress, and we can combine your love of food and, you know, and your, your passion for helping people develop beautiful recipes and, and connect with their families and whatnot.
And you can, now you can add to your blog, some sort of like a vlog where you, where you're going to, you're, you'll talk to people, you'll create a personality. You can have guests on your show. I'd love to be on your show. My wife would love to be on your show, you know? And then all of a sudden you could do, um, we could add little sketches, you know, you could do, you could, you create comedy out of it.
Eventually you could make, you could write your own show. That was like a, a, um, an actual drama or comedy, but relating around food. And then you star in your own show. Yeah. So if you create some sort of a vision for yourself, that is yours, it's unique to you. And you don't put a timeline on it, but you say that I'm driving toward this purpose each and every day I'm waking up knowing exactly what I'm going to do.
Then you go to bed excited to get up the next day to push forward. Yeah, that makes sense. And, um, I do feel like because of the job that I have right now, I do social media and marketing for a restaurant group in the Valley. And, um, this, I don't know if you've heard of like the Sicilian Butcher, um, or Hash Kitchen that's the, and Tomaso's, that's the family that I work for.
And so they're pretty like well-renowned in the restaurant world. And my boss has like all these amazing things coming up. Like I've already, I've worked with him with Food Network. Um, and I think it's possible that he may have his own show in the future on Netflix. And so I feel like it's a really good place for me to be food wise. Cause I know that I have a lot of good networking available and connections going on right now.
So I, I do feel like that kind of pull towards food stuff right now because it's just all lining up a little bit. Um, but you know, obviously the, the acting is like, I don't know, that's like the most important to me. So how you mentioned combining them right now, that's something that I didn't really think about that I think could be really fun. So, so let me ask you about your acting.
Do you have a very specific, um, goal in mind for acting like a way you want to act or are you open? I'm pretty open about it. I do like, I've obviously I've always wanted to like be on like a TV show or be in a movie. That's always what I wanted to do. So what type of TV show? What type of movie? As, um, okay. So it's kind of become more open as I've gotten older and I don't know why.
Yeah. Um, I stop it. I think it's because, um, I, I feel like I just have so many more interests after doing the film major. Like, um, I've grown an appreciation for so many more genres that I used to not particularly like so much. Um, and also I realized that, um, I'm interested in everything that goes into making a film as well. So I, I truly feel like I'd be happy in literally anything that has to do with entertainment at this point.
Um, but my biggest goal would be to probably do, I want to say, I don't know. I'd like to say, I'd like to do more serious movies. And if it were a TV show to probably be a comedy, like comedy really hits home for me and I love studying it, but yeah. So, so here's the thing. If you set your goal, which you probably did when you were younger on, I really want to be in a movie or I really want to be in a TV show.
What's interesting is you might end up in a TV show and very unhappy because you might be happy the second you land the show and then unhappy the second the show ends. And it's not really what you meant. You don't just want to be on a show. You want to have the skills to be on shows anytime you want. Yeah. So what you're developing is a life centered around your passion, centered around the things that you love.
You're going to have to work extremely hard to do it, but you're, you're going to start creating these little avenues for yourself to become successful and write your own ticket. Yeah. You want to be in control of your own life. A hundred percent. You don't want to have to be like always dependent upon somebody else to tell you, Hey, you're good enough to be in my thing.
Yeah. And I think, um, I don't know, sometimes I could really see myself, um, either like ending up on Food Network and then like having a separate career in acting from there, or maybe even vice versa. Like I said, I don't, sometimes I don't really know which order to focus in first, or maybe it just happens. Like maybe I just do what I'm doing. And then I think it's already happening.
So what you, what you realize is, is all your training as an actor, and this is why we do what we do is because actor training connects to all areas of life. It's why I can train salespeople and train it people and human resources, because the skills you're learning and acting apply everywhere. So as you, as you learn to connect those two, you're always going to be ready to act.
Yeah. You're going to be in that ready position at all times. Some people are just destined. It's what they want to do to go to LA and just audition. And they just want to be one of those people that does that thing and puts their name in the lottery hat. I recommend for most people to go and create their own way. Yeah. And, and I, and I, I, I base this on even the most successful actors, once they've, once they figured it out, the ones that really have their heads on straight, somebody like Tom Hanks or, you know, you name it, what they do is they, they, their third or fourth movie in, they realize, Oh, wait a minute.
I want to do what I'm passionate about. I want to make movies I'm passionate about. So they create their own production companies and then they produce their own stuff so that they're not stuck doing what somebody else is passionate about. They can, they can create their own, their own way. And that's what I'm recommending you do. Yeah. I'm going to give you another piece of advice too, that I think would be great for all of our listeners here.
And that is to continue looking at what you're, what you're doing as, as the gift that it is. Cause I, I, I feel your gratitude for the people you work for and that you're, that you like being there and whatnot. Um, along those lines, think to yourself for as long as humanly possible, how can I serve these people to the highest level? How can I make them more successful?
I don't care about getting more money. I don't care about any kind of success for myself. I don't care about my own networking on Food Network. Just literally, how can I serve you and better your life and realize that as you, as you elevate and you have, if you think about it, compared to where you were four years ago to where you are now, you've come, you're a completely different person and you've elevated, right?
Yes. If you met you from four years ago, the four years ago version of you would be like, oh, she's so cool. Right. Come on. Yeah. She would, she'd, she'd look at you and go, oh, I wish I could do all those things. So understand that there's always going to be somebody above you, so to speak, and people below you. And my whole thought process here is how do you find a way to become a servant of all?
Because if you can be the servant to the king, you're the most valuable person in the kingdom. If you're, if you're, if you're the number one servant, the person that they trust the most and never violate that trust. Yeah. And then if you can be a servant to the people, the people will love you. So, so you want to think to yourself, no matter what position I'm in, I want to find a way to serve knowing that, and I'm not doing it for this reason, but knowing that by being a servant, it always comes back to you always.
So you're in the right place. You're doing the right things. And I know that because everything's connected. Yeah. So if you had a job that was say random someplace else, it wouldn't be as connected as it is. You know, if you were, if you were say working at, um, I don't know, like a accounting firm and you were just filing, well, I'd say, great, keep the job, do the, you know, get what you need to get there, but you need to transition into hopefully a similar type job that connects into what you really want to be doing.
Uh, you've, you've got that. Yeah. And I think it's been a, it's been a really interesting learning thing for me too. Like you were just saying about serving, because ultimately the reason I got this job is because I was hostessing for them at one of the restaurants for about a year. And the reason I feel so compelled to this job is because, well, actually, um, they went under renovation when I was hostessing there and, um, we all lost our jobs for summer and I was really being encouraged by my friends and my dad to just like find a new job.
But I felt so compelled to this family for some reason that I just stuck it out. And I fought to get my job back when they reopened. And I did soon after I learned, I don't want to be a hostess anymore. I just got sick of not having a routine in my life. I hated having shifts at different times and I just felt ready to move on.
And I just, I just like asked my boss one day when he was in, I was like, Hey, can I have a job doing social media and marketing? And I had this whole pitch that I created every time that I had a moment when I was hostessing, I would write down on this piece of paper, like what I could offer them. And I think the reason I felt so strongly about that is because we share the fact that we're Italian and I was raised in a very similar way to that family was raised to the way that family was raised.
And, um, my family also had a restaurant history for a while. And I know that could connection could bring me far there because I understand, I understand something that, um, maybe other people don't. And so I asked, I had the whole pitch ready. I was expecting to have to get it. I was expecting to really have to fight for it. And he just was like, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
You can start on Monday. And I was like, well, what, what, but you don't want to hear my pitch. You don't want to hear the whole list of reasons, which I did end up giving them, but. So hold on, I'm going to give you a sales lesson. Now you ready? Okay. Prepare the pitch and then prepare not to give the pitch from now on. Okay. Okay. Once you have the job, close your mouth and walk out the door.
Yeah. I cannot tell you how many sales trainings that we've done where I have to, I have to train the pitch out of the salesperson. Cause you, you work all this time on it and you want them to know all these things, but really, they just, here's what they want to know. Jenna, can you help me? Can you help me deliver what I'm trying to deliver? What is this family trying to deliver to people?
Let me ask you, let me ask you that. Okay. Well, it's, I would say it's different for each concept, but I'll just use both of them. But overall they're, they're, they're delivering food, right? But what, what's the, but what's underneath it? An experience. Yeah. What kind? An unforgettable experience. A what? An unforgettable experience. Boom. They're trying to deliver an unforgettable experience. They're trying to connect, say in, in, in one concept friends and another concept family and another concept, you know, maybe, you know, heritage, whatever.
But they're trying to, they're trying to create this unforgettable experience. You share values with these people. So from now on, what, what you, the way you look at this, you're going to flip the script and you're never going to say I again. Instead, no, you, you. Oh, just kidding. Okay. Me. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. You, you, you, you say you to them. Yeah. Okay. So, so let me, let me, here's what I mean.
You walk in and you say, we share an Italian heritage. We share, we share a family background in restaurants. We share certain values and we share a love of food. And I see how passionate you are about delivering an unforgettable experience. And I believe that my skillset can help you further your mission. Not, I believe your restaurant and your, what you've already created can help me in my career.
Oh yeah. Yeah. You see the difference though? So, so you want to, you want to eliminate that completely, you know, it will help you of course, but you, everybody needs to eliminate themselves out of the equation. And when you walk in for any job and I'm kind of talking to everybody else right now, just so you know, but I want people to understand when you go into apply for anything, the goal here is to figure out how can I serve?
What is your vision? What is your vision? What is your mission? What are your values? And do I connect with them? And do I sincerely feel like my skillset can help you reach your goals? And if I do, that's what I present. And then you're going to get the job. Like that's how it works. Yeah. And these people were obviously brilliant to bring you on. Yeah. And that's the reason I brought it up too, is because you were talking about serving.
I don't know what exactly it was, but I felt very connected to the family right off the bat just immediately. And I just felt very like a strong pull towards them. And I wanted to be a part of it. I wanted to continue working for them no matter what, like if I could get this newer, better job, great. But I just knew I wanted to keep working for them either way.
And if I could help that, that's great. And that's kind of exactly how it happened. So I have another piece of advice that you can share with other people right now because you're already doing it, but I think you can encourage others in this way. What happens when this restaurant or let's say like these people, they have to go under for a while for, for a short period of time, or they have to slow down or they have to put some people on furlough, whatever, in order to transition.
What does everybody do during that time? And the question is, are, if you're connected to a cause, my, my perspective on it is double down right now in any crisis on your giving. Yeah. So if I, if I could go back and talk to young Jenna who got the job anyway, but, but when everybody got laid off from their jobs, you, you fought for your job, right?
What I would have done is, is while you didn't have a job, I would have, I would have gone and I would have asked, Hey, would you mind? I would love to get access to your social media accounts for free. And I would love to do all your social media for free. And I want to help you guys like 10 X your business for free. And, and if, and when you're, you're back up and running and, and we've created some value and you think that there might be a place for me, I would love to be able to work for you and continue this for pay.
Right now, I just want to give while you guys are in transition. May I do that for you? Yeah. And I would have essentially found a way to give myself a full-time job that didn't exist. And then you create the job for yourself. Yeah. And that goes back to that servanthood. Okay. If we haven't, if we haven't hit them all already. I would say, okay. Speaking of acting and auditions, um, how, because of what I went through, I feel like sometimes I have, I get nervous to chase it professionally again, like, um, not nervous to chase it.
Let me reword that. I haven't gotten involved with auditions yet again, or getting an agent or anything like that. And I, there's a fear there and I don't know exactly what it is. And I think it's because I consider like auditioning and having an agent and getting back out there such a huge responsibility. I feel nervous for some reason that I'm not going to be able to do it for some reason.
And I don't really know how to overcome that. Okay. I got the answer. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. So you already know the answer. And so you have your story really based on where you're going, you don't have to audition. You don't have to get an agent, but based on what you just told me, you have to audition and you have to get an agent. And the reason is because you're afraid of it.
Yeah. Okay. So remember walking into your boss's office, what happened? You had a whole pitch and you were super nervous and you were like, I just want this thing. That's what you're going to do. Yeah. You're going to just go audition for the agent. And, and here's the deal. You have to, you have your pitch ready. Here's, here's who I am and why you should take me on.
Okay. Yeah. And they're either going to take you or they're not. And, but it doesn't, it should never matter to you because then you just go to the next one and the next one, because I can tell you right now, anybody who has an agent, it doesn't matter. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it doesn't change your life, but if you're afraid of it, I say you go after it.
Yeah. And that's, it's part of the, like I've, it's just something that I've wanted to do since I've been back in class, but I just have been too nervous to do. So it's something that I would like to do. So do it. So pull the trigger. I'm going to, and I'm going to give you a way to do it right now. First and foremost, go on to one of the national websites.
It doesn't matter which one. Have you read, have you read my book? Acting is my day job. I have it. Yeah. Have you read it? I've gone halfway through. I'm sorry. That's okay. Read the book. Cause I've got step-by-step how to do this, but what you're going to do, you go onto one of those sites and just start auditioning. Yeah. So you're already auditioning. And, and what's funny is I say in the book, you can do it at home.
You can do it via video. Yeah. All of a sudden it's like, that's the only way to go. So start doing that right afterward. I mean, right away apply for an agent. love to audition for you. Here's my story. You know, I work, I work with this, with this Italian company and, you know, with these restaurants and I'm a food blogger and I'm, and I've got my own thing going and I, and acting is a big part of my life.
And I would love to be, you know, doing jobs as I'm creating a career for myself. And there's not a person in the world that wouldn't sign you. And if they won't, I will be your agent personally. Okay. Okay. So do that. Then just start auditioning whenever, just for the sake of auditioning. For no other purpose other than to say, this was something I was afraid of because of that.
That's why I do it. Just to get over that fear. As soon as I, as soon as I'm over the fear and I decide whether or not I want to do it or not do it. Then you may have one of those Anderson Cooper moments where you say, I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. And then that's okay. So like in the Valley, I can tell you, I probably work more as an actor than a lot of actors locally.
My wife as well. I got to a point where I don't audition anymore. It just, I'm like, okay, I'm kind of over that process. But, but we've, but we've built relationships. We do different things. We have clients. And so we, we find ways to act differently than other people. Yeah. So like I, I would, I would use a way to segue my relationship with you to your relationship with your owners and I would end up doing a commercial with them.
Yeah. You know, and, and, and we could, we do a whole thing and that's, that's how that connects. Well, you can do the same thing, but right now you must audition because you're afraid of auditioning. Yeah. Yeah. Because once you do it, it'll go away. That's the cool part. Yeah. How does that make you feel? Um, good, but nervous at the same time. Good. How can I fix this?
Yeah. It got so bright. You know what? Just going to work with it. So, so, um, you, you probably noticed the Dearing studios putting up a lot of content recently. Um, we, so we, we, um, we're transitioning like everybody else. And I just want to tell you something. So you just said, it makes me excited and nervous, right? Yeah. I told my wife and my team here that, um, right now I've never, I, I, the last time I was this scared and this excited at the same time is when I dropped medicine.
Yeah. I was so terrified and yet so excited to wake up every day that it was, it was incredible because I had no idea where I was going. And this is, this is the concept of, I want to, I kind of want to live in this place. It's an, it's a, it's a good place to live. You know, we don't want to be fearful, but we want to be, we want to be a little bit scared.
We want to be living on the edge and not know what tomorrow is going to look like necessarily because otherwise life can become boring and mundane. So, so it's okay to be a little, a little nervous about it, but focus on the excitement and focus on just, okay, I'm just going to do this. And, and for how long, like set, set yourself a goal that's not getting jobs because who cares?
You're probably going to get a lot of them, but don't worry about that. Instead focus on, okay, here's, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to, um, I'm going to go on a hundred auditions. I'm going to, I'm going to read Matt's book to the end, um, or have somebody read it to me. I'm doing, I'm doing a book on tape actually of it. So you have no excuses.
You can read it this afternoon and you'll be done. It's a quick read. Um, yeah, you're going to read the book. Cause I, I, I write right in there how to track your auditions and why it's powerful. Cause as you track the audition, you can see the progress and you make slight adjustments. And what's, what's crazy is sometimes you, you journal about your audition and you're like, Oh, I didn't feel like I did all that great.
And then you get the job. And sometimes you think, Oh, I did so good. And then you don't get the job and it's, and it's confusing. The reason is because you're getting the job because you're elevating as a person, you're elevating as an, as an actor in general and you were right for that part, but you, you had to put yourself in the position to be there and be present.
So as a whole, you might be moving up. Even if you have a bad audition day, you, you might still get the job because you're, you're just a better actress than everybody else. So that should be your goal, say 50 auditions, a hundred auditions. Once I'm done with that, then I can decide where I like, what, how I want to change or, or adapt or just not audition anymore.
That's fine too. If you, if you make that choice. Yeah. All right. All right. One last question. If you have one. Okay. Um, this is like pulling back to the present moment. Um, maybe this is more of like a time management oriented question. I'm not sure, but sometimes I feel like, um, cause being a full-time student, it is kind of stressful, obviously. Um, but I don't know what, why exactly I feel this way, but sometimes if I say, okay, I'm going to work on schoolwork until four and then like from five until dinnertime, I'm going to take a break and work on acting or vice versa when I'm working on the acting or when I'm working on the schoolwork, I always find myself, not always, but most of the time find myself feeling a little guilty that I'm not doing the other thing.
And so if I take a break for the acting, um, sometimes I'll be like, I could have gotten that quiz done by now. And then I could have been done with homework, like for the day, or if I'm doing the homework and it got really late and I haven't worked on like my blog yet or acting yet. I'm like, I could have gotten that blog post done and I should have just done that.
And I guess my question is like, how do you not feel guilty? over not, I know I can't do everything at once all the time, but how do you just like not feel guilty over those? You're always going to feel a little guilty. I'm sorry to tell you that. So there's no, there's no way to get over that other than here's, here's what I like to say.
I want to strive every day to earn my pillow. Okay. And I know whether I did or didn't. And so sometimes, cause here's the thing, the work will never be over ever. Yeah. Even if you do the quiz and you get a hundred percent, you, you probably could have understood the material better. Yeah. And then you probably could have understood the material better. So there's always a way to improve, which is the exciting part.
It's, it's, it's a mastery lifestyle that, that we're preaching over here. So when you're, when you're in that mindset, you, you'll understand there isn't an ending. So because there isn't an ending, that's never my goal. Now I'll set little goals. There are little things I have to get done, have to accomplish. I've got to get my taxes done, for instance, before April 15th on most years. Like that's, that's something I have to do, I guess, by this certain time.
But in the same regard, um, if it's on my to-do list for today and then something else takes priority and, and I know I gave everything I had and I 10X in this other area. And I barely start on my taxes. That's okay. I earned my pillow and I just have to hold myself accountable for is, was that true? Or did I get distracted in something that was not life-giving?
That was sort of, you know, like I wasted time on something and, and here's the truth. You can waste time practicing acting or you can become a better actress practicing acting. Yeah. And, and you know the difference. It's like, you'll get yourself lost in things I like to do as, as an actress versus things that are hard and working toward the progress of making me better. I don't like doing X, Y, Z for my acting.
Let's say it's memorizing or, you know, I don't know, Cole Reed commercials or something that's sort of a grind. That's the thing you should be working on. And the thing that's difficult, that's going to progress you forward. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. All right. And then you just track your time, hold yourself accountable. And then you want to make sure that you are, you are better than you yesterday.
That's the goal. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. You have a wonderful day. I can tell the, uh, the sun here is fighting your eyes a little bit. So we're going to wrap it up. I was trying to get it in a frame where it wouldn't be hitting my eyes, but it did. All right. So we look forward to seeing your blog. Let's, let's give another shout out for that.
It is, uh, can you say it for me again? It's lovely limone. So lovely. And then L I M O N E lemon in Italian, basically. Oh, lovely lemon, lovely limone. Okay. Dot com. And do you, do you talk about the, uh, the restaurant on there, the restaurants? Are we a loser? Um, that was weird. All right. It looks like we might've lost, uh, Jenna here for a second, but we're going to, we are plugging her blog, the lovely lemon or lovely limone.com is the name of the blog.
And you should go there to see all of Jenna's tips on baking and creating different culinary cuisines. I'm sure my wife will be, uh, over to her blog very, very soon. That's our show guys. Thank you so much for watching. Please like subscribe, share. We are just trying to spread some light out there in the world and we need your help to do that. So, uh, like our page, subscribe to our page, please, please, please.
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